How to Have a Rational Discussion

Editor’s Note: Brandon Scott Gorrell, who created this graph, admits that “perhaps it is mere wishful thinking, this diagram; perhaps reasonable discussion is altogether impossible (esp. on the internet), and we only hope in vain to one day live in a world where people are ready and willing to, you know, talk it out reasonably.”

Daily Show: Hilarious, Devastating Critique of the GOP’s Ryan Plan

The right-wing has a mancrush on Paul Ryan, whose “Path to Prosperity” would implement a further massive shift of wealth from the working class to the hoarding class, all by means of spending cuts on such frivolities as Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, Pell grants and low-income housing.

But the Daily Show’s Jon Stewart suffers no such disability, and consequently sees the basic flaw in Ryan’s plan.

Stewart offers an equally effective solution based not on spending cuts, but on … well, see below.

Here are a few key stills from Stewart’s withering and clear-eyed critique (see full video here):

Ryan Shows Current Debt Level:

Ryan Predicts Debt Level in 2050:

Ryan Shows Debt Level if His Spending-Reduction Plan is Implemented:

Jon Stewart Starts With Projected 2050 Debt Level:

Stewart Shows 2050 Level if Bush Tax Cuts Are Rescinded:

Stewart Shows Essence of Ryan Plan:


Hilarious Fake Photo of Obama’s Grandparents With Obama’s Knee

Jack Cashill, WorldNetDaily writer and author of Deconstructing Obama, is making a career out of Obama conspiracy theories.

One of Cashill’s recent efforts to catch Obama in a lie, according to Simon Maloy of MediaMatters, turns out to be hilariously inept.

Cashill says that the following photo of Obama sitting between his grandparents is a photoshopped fake:

Cashill claims that this is the original from which the fake was constructed:

But notice the problem: Obama’s disembodied knee is conspicuously present in the one Cashill claims is not fake!

I looked around for Cashill’s article on April 7th, in which he was supposed to have made this claim. I found his column for the 7th all right, but it makes no mention of these photos. Did Cashill quickly alter his column after MediaMatters’ embarrassing revelation?

Who knows? But you can still see here Cashill’s YouTube video (until it disappears too!) in which he lays out this absurd claim:

Jon Stewart on Obama’s Broken Transparency Promise

Jon Stewart nails it … again.

“Where Will We Find the Money?” (Cartoon)

by Khalil Bendib (Reprinted from OtherWords under a Creative Commons License).

A MineTalk Interview with Rosy Scenario, the Gold Mining Industry’s Oldest Employee

Ms. Rosy Scenario has enjoyed a successful career for the last 20 years as a PR consultant for penny stock gold exploration companies. Before that, she worked in Eastern Europe, where she was instrumental in getting buy-in for the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.

Minetalk caught up with her in her office at Crown Point Circle

Mine Talk:  Good afternoon, Ms. Scenario.

Scenario:   You can call me Rosy.

Mine Talk: Rosy, before we start, I have to ask: Are you related to W. Case Scenario, who argued in favor of earthquake safety measures for the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant?

Rosy: Yes.  He’s my cousin, but a real pessimist. We disagree on everything.

MT: Rosy, with regard to the Idaho Maryland Mine project, what can you tell us about the effect on our underground water supply from constantly pumping water out of the mining tunnels into Wolf Creek, and what can we learn from the disastrous San Juan Ridge Mine that operated for only a few years in the 90’s?

Rosy: I’m so glad you asked. Of course, some private wells will be sucked dry, perhaps as far as Colfax, but not to worry. The City will provide ditch water to homes around the mine site.

MT: You’ve said that the water pumped from the mine tunnels will be treated before it’s released into Wolf Creek.  How will it be treated, and to what standard?

Rosy: We’re working on a plan for that.

MT: You’ve said that this mine project could create 400 jobs. Where does that number come from, and would these workers be hired from within our local community?

Rosy: Although the last time a major mine operated in this area was in the 1950s, there still must be plenty of people in the local community who have all the latest 21st-century mining skills needed for this work.  Or, we could bring them in from Nevada.

MT: Some critics have suggested that re-opening the mine will result in a net job loss to the community, when you take into account the high-tech businesses that will move out, and those that will not want to move here. How do you respond to that?

Rosy: Mining saved Grass Valley during the Great Depression without any high-tech industries.

MT: But during the Great Depression, mining represented about 16% of the workforce. Today it would be less than half a percent.

Rosy: Well, to paraphrase Margaret Mead, never underestimate what a few committed people can accomplish.

MT: The mine plans to dig up a whole lot of rock to crush and treat with toxic chemicals – 20 or more tons for every ounce of gold recovered.  Some mining engineers suggest that there may not be more than one year’s worth of gold left in the mine. How can you be so confident that there’s enough for 20 years of operation?

Rosy:  Just ask our investors! Some of them are still with us after 20 years without a single ounce of gold to show for it so far. Besides, our resource estimates are inferred, not proven.

MT: The Editor/Publisher of our local newspaper recently wrote a very compelling op-ed in which he argued in favor of considering the worst-case scenario before proceeding with any large project like this. What would you say to him?

Rosy: I’d say this: California environmental regulations are so strict that nothing bad can possibly happen.

MT: What about diminished air quality?  The Draft Environmental Impact Review (DEIR) lists 10 different acute, chronic, and/or carcinogenic toxic air contaminants, including 20 million tons of CO2 over the life of the project.  And the project would emit more than 9 times the ’significant level’ of nitrogen oxides every day.

Rosy: Nevada County is already among the 12 worst counties in the U.S. for air quality.  How can 220 twenty-ton diesel truck trips through town every day make it worse?

MT: What about the possibility of road accidents involving mine trucks carrying sodium cyanide, explosives, and other hazardous chemicals on City streets and on Highway 49?  And, what about the use and storage of cyanide and explosives at the site? What is your plan for preventing accidents, theft, leaks, and spills?

Rosy: The mining industry is heavily regulated.  We’ll have policy manuals on shelves in the office.  Therefore, there won’t be any accidents.  Grass Valley is completely safe, unless something bad happens.

MT: What about this tile factory?  Can the tile factory accommodate 1200 to 2400 tons of tailings every day? And what if it turns out that there just isn’t a market for tiles made of melted mine waste?

Rosy.  Well, we hope there’s a market.  It seems like such a good idea.

MT:  What if the Grass Valley economy suffers as tourists, retirees and young families flee the town due to the presence of a dirty industrial hard rock gold mine and tile factory within city limits?

Rosy:  You sound just like Chicken Little “Oh, the sky is falling!” But seriously, trust me. That’s not going to happen.

MT: Shouldn’t the mine company pay royalties to Grass Valley?

Rosy:  You’re such a comedian!

MT: Why must Grass Valley rely on a huge new mining operation to clean up the mess left by others on what is now private property?

Rosy: It doesn’t need to, of course, but it helps our cause that some people think that.

MT: The project sits on top of an earthquake splinter fault within the Foothills Fault Zone.  Could blasting deep in the earth increase the risk of subsidence and sink holes?

Rosy:  In the absence of actual knowledge, I like to say, “Always look on the bright side of life.”

MT: Long term, what will be the effect on our water quality, and thus the health of our community, from burying mine waste back into the tunnels?  As it has been explained to me, acid water could form in the mine tunnels when the pulverized rock is buried and comes into contact with water and oxygen.  Over time, even low-sulfide ore in the presence of neutralizing minerals will produce acid water, since the neutralizing minerals dissolve at a faster rate. As the mine is located near both surface and groundwater sources, acid water and released heavy metals could pollute both the City’s ground water supply and surface water, in perpetuity.

Rosy:  We’re not worried – we’ll be long gone by then.

We look forward to continuing this discussion with Rosy in the months to come.

“Your Pensions Offend Me” (Cagle Cartoon)

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If You Live in Wisconsin, Don’t Forget to Set Your Clock Back 50 Years This Weekend

Joke going viral on Twitter:

“If You Live in Wisconsin, Don’t Forget to Set Your Clock Back 50 Years This Weekend”

Who Needs Unions (Mike Keefe Cartoon)

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Palm Trees in Wisconsin? Only on Fox News

Fox News was so eager to show the protesters in Madison in a bad light that they ran some “B-roll,” as they call it in the industry (AKA stock footage), of some unruly protesters somewhere.

The trouble is, the palm trees in the background give the game away. Although, as I heard recently, “the people who believe Fox News are the same people who think wrestling is real.”

They distort. You decide. See for yourself:

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