Comments on: Who’s Polluting the Climate Conversation? http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:35:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: depelton http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-437 depelton Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:27:32 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-437 <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zORv8wwiadQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zORv8wwiadQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

]]> By: Ruaa http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-436 Ruaa Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:17:10 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-436 Don, I think that we should have universal disclosure, by everyone in the discussion, including Green Peace, Union of Concerned Scientists, Real Climate, and all the other environmental think tanks and associations. What say you? Are you open for full disclosure? Don,

I think that we should have universal disclosure, by everyone in the discussion, including Green Peace, Union of Concerned Scientists, Real Climate, and all the other environmental think tanks and associations. What say you? Are you open for full disclosure?

]]> By: Ruaa http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-435 Ruaa Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:09:41 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-435 Don, I love it when warmers truncate the data to prove their point. Why not show the 2008 and 2009 ice extent? 2007 was the lowest year since they started taking radar data. Where as, the 2008 and 2009 are near the average. It is interesting to note that in 2007 antarctic had a spike in ice coverage that equaled the arctic decline. Don,

I love it when warmers truncate the data to prove their point. Why not show the 2008 and 2009 ice extent? 2007 was the lowest year since they started taking radar data. Where as, the 2008 and 2009 are near the average. It is interesting to note that in 2007 antarctic had a spike in ice coverage that equaled the arctic decline.

]]> By: depelton http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-427 depelton Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:02:48 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-427 <img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2354" title="obama_fdr" src="http://sierravoices.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/polar_melting.jpg" ]]> By: JeffM http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-426 JeffM Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:15:19 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-426 When the going gets tough, the warmers ratchet up the alarms! Keep it up. People are smart enough to know this, and it only makes more and more people doubt the veracity of your message. When the going gets tough, the warmers ratchet up the alarms! Keep it up. People are smart enough to know this, and it only makes more and more people doubt the veracity of your message.

]]> By: Anna Haynes http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-425 Anna Haynes Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:49:00 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-425 p.s. congratulations on becoming an environmental organization! :-) and here I thought you were just a guy with a cold. p.s. congratulations on becoming an environmental organization!
:-)

and here I thought you were just a guy with a cold.

]]> By: Anna Haynes http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-424 Anna Haynes Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:47:46 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-424 Don, while "Policy Watchdog" defended the Heartland Institute in the comment above, I don't see any self-identification as being Heartland-affiliated. If he is, and he didn't, that's pretty sleazy. Mother Jones has an article on Heartland as one of their Dirty Dozen of Climate Change Denial, at http://motherjones.com/environment/2009/12/dirty-dozen-climate-change-denial-06-heartland-institute Don, while “Policy Watchdog” defended the Heartland Institute in the comment above, I don’t see any self-identification as being Heartland-affiliated. If he is, and he didn’t, that’s pretty sleazy.

Mother Jones has an article on Heartland as one of their Dirty Dozen of Climate Change Denial,
at
http://motherjones.com/environment/2009/12/dirty-dozen-climate-change-denial-06-heartland-institute

]]> By: depelton http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-422 depelton Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:46:42 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-422 Non-Heartland readers may be interested in: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute Non-Heartland readers may be interested in:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heartland_Institute

]]> By: depelton http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-420 depelton Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:00:41 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-420 Heartland Institute's Policy Watchdog said: "Is it not true that Sierra Voices also receives funding from donors?" If I had donors I'd feel duty-bound to disclose them. Heartland Institute’s Policy Watchdog said:

“Is it not true that Sierra Voices also receives funding from donors?”

If I had donors I’d feel duty-bound to disclose them.

]]> By: Policy Watchdog http://sierravoices.com/2010/01/whos-polluting-the-climate-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-419 Policy Watchdog Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:45:52 +0000 http://sierravoices.com/?p=2339#comment-419 Is it not true that Sierra Voices also receives funding from donors? To suggest that The Heartland Institute should reveal the sources of its funding when environmentalist organizations like yourself don’t is disingenuous and an obvious display of bias. You’re not looking for fair disclosure; you’re looking for “smoking guns.” And what evidence do you have that Heartland “lobbies”? That’s an unfair and misleading charge without proof. Heartland provides research and “thoughtful commentary and analysis” – just as you claim to do. Is it not true that Sierra Voices also receives funding from donors? To suggest that The Heartland Institute should reveal the sources of its funding when environmentalist organizations like yourself don’t is disingenuous and an obvious display of bias. You’re not looking for fair disclosure; you’re looking for “smoking guns.” And what evidence do you have that Heartland “lobbies”? That’s an unfair and misleading charge without proof. Heartland provides research and “thoughtful commentary and analysis” – just as you claim to do.

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